Conversation with Sri. Chandkiran Saluja
(Samskrit Bharati Foundation, New Delhi)
Observation: We meet some amazing people all throughout your life who give a different perspective to life journey. One of the best conversations which I had with Sri Chandkran Saluja is here.
The following was the experience gained to understand how a teacher and student interaction can be made better in a classroom. The conversion with Sri Chandkiran Saluja, provided a wider prospective view from Ancient Hindu Philosoph.
Q1. How should a teacher be? Is there any ancient script directly addressing how teaching needs to be carried out?
A: Teacher must himself be a learner – “Learning by doing”.
We have no literature which will tell directly the teaching methodology in ancient Hindu education system. No direct answer. They all give example and we need to think about it.
Q2: How important is it for teacher to know the methodology of teaching?
A: You eat food and it gets converted to essential elements for the body. Do we know the methodology for its conversion? Sometimes it is not necessary that you know the methodology. But we deliver with intent of benefit to human-kind.
Q3: What are the different methods of teaching?
Methods of teaching:
1. Learning by doing
2. Audio visual
3. Direct experience
4. One of our classes can be students asking questions to teacher. This way we get different view of the class learning. Main motto would be “Learning by doing”.
5. Basic principle – method is to follow to find like and dislike and later categories the teaching process.
Teacher’s basic skills also matters. For example:
· Enter classroom
· Write on board
· How they talk?
· Where do I stand in the class?
· Whom do I talk too?
· Different questioning ability ( grade wise)
· Cognitive domain questioning (Practical in life)
Currently the environment we teach is very quiet.
Q4. What does Gita convey?
A. Conversation method between Arjuna and Krishna
· Perception theory – argumentation – you convert it by motivation - I will do it.
· Method followed in Gita – Q &A , cross questioning. This needs to be cultivated in today’s classroom.
· Features of a student-in Gita Krishna gives many names to Arjuna to tell the quality of the student.
Q5. What does Upanishad deal with ?
A. Inductive approaches are dealt in this
· Videos - direct experience, reconstruction of experience
· Analyse – cross verify knowledge by asking
§ What are your views
§ Give examples
§ Debate (Seminar)
· Viva Voce – questioning
Q6. What does Atarvaveda signify?
A. The meaning of guru and student.
· AcharyaUpanamemano ….. GhranthdUpavanthe
· Bhramacharya means “Bhrama –who has faith” knowledge expansion is bhramacharya
Q7. Different terms for teacher and its meanings
· Shikshaka – reads, study, no instruction is given
· Guru - remove doubts
· Upadhyaya – who has faith
· Adyapaka – motivates
· Acharya – takes within his womb and nurtures
Teacher must be a learner, have good habits, standard of living, high thinking, creative mind and also should know the nature of the subject – which we call the pedagogy methods.
I prepare – so students study
Education with daily life – newspaper reading and relating is a must.- Discuss on it- New experience gained.
Anubhuthi–adeethi (imbedded Quality)
“Atma, avevasrotayahmantavayahnididhyasitavyah” – knowledge is all about listening, contemplation and practice (cognition, understanding and application).
My experience should become motivation
Q8. What is the essence of Rigveda?
A.Rigveda – Attarvaveda means procedure for everyday life – knowledge. It also tells about child schooling structure and psychology.
Bala- Creation of environment, child psychology, and child centered education
Child – respecting others
Narrow – board meaning is what you can derive from ancient script. Deeper understanding is required to obtain the board meaning- here we get to know the life skills. Sanskara is what out hindu philosophy teaching ( 16 rituals are there- after marriage how we are, during pregnancy how we should be, girls should come back home by evening to home, …)
Our body itself is part and parcel of the society.
Q9. Why should one read Mahabharth?
Maha – great
Bhar – who feed
Bharath – process of feeding
Kurushketra – place of work – our body- do your work
Fight – Pandav – senses
Kaurava – desires
Krishna – mind – thinking control
Dritharashtra – v. selfish
Yudishtra – kind
Krishna – guide
Arjun – friend
Dushyasana- Insult-created with motive
Work in Society – Mahabharath
Individual and society are in human being itself. They are the same side of the coin.
Scientist must study humanities, as science is not only technology but way of work. It has got solution for every problem. Any problem has set of hypothesis, which is systematically solvable. This means that any proposition has a hypothesis along with data, where we need to analyze which rises to provide theory. Do your work.
Q10. How to read sloka and get to know the meaning?
Solution: Read the sloka, then its translation. Now again read back thesloka- we get the meaning of it easily.
Q11. Are we really doing right thing by looking at past?
Things which have changed are Food processing, cloth all these are only physical changes. The one thing that is still same as our past is the desire to achieve something. We learn from history, live in present and hope for the future.
All subjects are interactive. We need to play with science. Any subject is part of human being. Let student do their work, see, you give examples and say theory.
Eg: cartoon is derived from panchathantra.
Yoga shastra – way of teaching, yoga is to join, study of chita vithinirodana.
Chit is with Abhyasa (practice) vithi – control mind and body
Thapa – student – to work hard – body gets hot.
2 types of teachers (spiritual and material – Vashishta and Vishwamithra, Krishna and Drona)
· Well versed in theory
· Practical but not theory
Students grasp with individual differences.