Conversation with Sri. Chandkiran Saluja
(Samskrit
Bharati Foundation, New Delhi)
Observation:
We
meet some amazing people all throughout your life who give a different
perspective to life journey. One of the best conversations which I had with Sri
Chandkran Saluja is here.
The
following was the experience gained to understand how a teacher and student
interaction can be made better in a classroom. The conversion with Sri
Chandkiran Saluja, provided a wider prospective view from Ancient Hindu Philosoph.
Q1.
How should a teacher be? Is there any ancient script directly addressing how
teaching needs to be carried out?
A: Teacher must himself
be a learner – “Learning by doing”.
We have no literature
which will tell directly the teaching methodology in ancient Hindu education
system. No direct answer. They all give example and we need to think about it.
Q2:
How important is it for teacher to know the methodology of teaching?
A: You eat food and it
gets converted to essential elements for the body. Do we know the methodology
for its conversion? Sometimes it is not
necessary that you know the methodology. But we deliver with intent of benefit
to human-kind.
Q3:
What are the different methods of teaching?
Methods of teaching:
1.
Learning by doing
2.
Audio visual
3.
Direct experience
4.
One of our classes can be students
asking questions to teacher. This way we get different view of the class
learning. Main motto would be “Learning by doing”.
5.
Basic principle – method is to follow to
find like and dislike and later categories the teaching process.
Teacher’s basic skills
also matters. For example:
·
Enter classroom
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Write on board
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How they talk?
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Where do I stand in the class?
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Whom do I talk too?
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Different questioning ability ( grade
wise)
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Cognitive domain questioning (Practical
in life)
Currently the
environment we teach is very quiet.
Q4.
What does Gita convey?
A.
Conversation method between Arjuna and
Krishna
·
Perception theory – argumentation – you
convert it by motivation - I will do it.
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Method followed in Gita – Q &A ,
cross questioning. This needs to be cultivated in today’s classroom.
·
Features of a student-in Gita Krishna
gives many names to Arjuna to tell the quality of the student.
Q5.
What does Upanishad deal with ?
A. Inductive
approaches are dealt in this
·
Videos -
direct experience, reconstruction of experience
·
Analyse – cross verify knowledge by
asking
§ What
are your views
§ Give
examples
§ Debate
(Seminar)
§ Dialogues
·
Viva Voce – questioning
Q6.
What does Atarvaveda signify?
A.
The meaning of guru and student.
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AcharyaUpanamemano ….. GhranthdUpavanthe
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Bhramacharya means “Bhrama –who has
faith” knowledge expansion is
bhramacharya
Q7.
Different terms for teacher and its meanings
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Shikshaka – reads, study, no instruction
is given
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Guru - remove doubts
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Upadhyaya – who has faith
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Adyapaka – motivates
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Acharya – takes within his womb and nurtures
Teacher must be a
learner, have good habits, standard of living, high thinking, creative mind and
also should know the nature of the subject – which we call the pedagogy
methods.
Students
Psychology
I prepare – so students
study
Education with daily
life – newspaper reading and relating is a must.- Discuss on it- New experience
gained.
Anubhuthi–adeethi
(imbedded Quality)
“Atma,
avevasrotayahmantavayahnididhyasitavyah” – knowledge is all about listening,
contemplation and practice (cognition, understanding and application).
My experience should
become motivation
Q8.
What is the essence of Rigveda?
A.Rigveda – Attarvaveda
means procedure for everyday life –
knowledge. It also tells about child schooling structure and psychology.
Bala- Creation of
environment, child psychology, and child centered education
-Socialization
Child – respecting others
Narrow – board meaning is what you can derive from ancient
script. Deeper understanding is required to obtain the board meaning- here we
get to know the life skills. Sanskara is
what out hindu philosophy teaching ( 16 rituals are there- after marriage how
we are, during pregnancy how we should be, girls should come back home by
evening to home, …)
Our body itself is part
and parcel of the society.
Q9.
Why should one read Mahabharth?
A.
Maha – great
Bhar – who feed
Bharath – process of
feeding
Kurushketra – place of
work – our body- do your work
Fight – Pandav – senses
Kaurava – desires
Krishna – mind –
thinking control
Dritharashtra – v.
selfish
Yudishtra – kind
Krishna – guide
Arjun – friend
Duryodhana-Aggressive
Dushyasana- Insult-created
with motive
Work
in Society – Mahabharath
Individual and society
are in human being itself. They are the same side of the coin.
Scientist must study
humanities, as science is not only technology but way of work. It has got
solution for every problem. Any problem has set of hypothesis, which is
systematically solvable. This means that any proposition has a hypothesis along
with data, where we need to analyze which rises to provide theory. Do your
work.
Q10.
How to read sloka and get to know the meaning?
Solution:
Read the sloka, then its translation. Now again read back thesloka- we get the meaning of it easily.
Q11.
Are we really doing right thing by looking at past?
Things which have
changed are Food processing, cloth all these are only physical changes. The one
thing that is still same as our past is the desire to achieve something. We
learn from history, live in present and hope for the future.
All subjects are
interactive. We need to play with science. Any subject is part of human being.
Let student do their work, see, you give examples and say theory.
Eg: cartoon is derived
from panchathantra.
Yoga
shastra – way of teaching, yoga is to join, study of chita
vithinirodana.
Chit is with Abhyasa
(practice) vithi – control mind and body
Thapa – student – to
work hard – body gets hot.
2 types of teachers
(spiritual and material – Vashishta and Vishwamithra, Krishna and Drona)
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Well versed in theory
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Practical but not theory
Students grasp with
individual differences.
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